Episode 28 – Jeffrey Snover talks about WinRM

1 06 2008

A Podcast about Windows PowerShell.


In This Episode

We have a great show for you guys today.  Several weeks back we had Jeffrey Snover on the show.  We had teased at the time that there was a third portion to the interview that deals with WinRM and WS-MGMT.  We’re going to play that today for you.  Also on tap: news, resources, and a bunch of PowerShell tips for you.


The news is sponsored by Sapien Technologies.

  • BGShell now has a Codeplex page
  • Microsoft Forefront 2008 (code-named Stirling) looks to be built on PowerShell. Here’s a blog post.
  • PowerShell Plus supports the new CTP2 STA feature
    • This is big because it allows for you to play with all of the new WPF stuff we’ll be talking about later in the show.


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We hope you enjoy the Jeffrey Snover clip on Win-RM and WS-MGMT.




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3 responses

2 06 2008
Kirk Munro

Thanks for the props Hal. I’m actually in an email discussion with the PM and lead developer from the SQL team right now about my issues with the closed console. Loud alarms were ringing in my head when I discovered that a few weeks ago. Hopefully they’ll be persuaded to go with the command-line switches and standard console approach instead by RTM.

Kirk Munro [MVP]

16 06 2008

I have to say Win-RM and WS-MGMT sound really cool!

Concerning SQL 2008 the only reason I can think of is security, as in allowing a “full powershell” session to touch the database would be a security risk. Taking that to the next level you could say that you don’t trust the host you are administering the SQL server from. My suggestion would be that you shouldn’t administrer the host from a machine you don’t trust.

Kirk, did they give any reason?

17 06 2008
Kirk Munro

I didn’t hear back directly from Michiel (the team lead for the PowerShell work in SQL Server), however he posted his response as a number of us PowerShell MVPs were pushing them about this. Here is a link to the details from the horses mouth:

Michiel Wories’ WebLog : SQL Server Powershell is here!:

I just posted a comment on that blog just now expressing my concern with shipping sqlps.exe as is today. Hopefully he’ll let it through and reply in his comments as he has to others who expressed concern. And if you are concerned about this mini-shell, tell Michiel about it in the comments on that blog post!

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